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andy75180
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#1 | Posted: 17 Jun 2008 07:58 | Edited by: andy75180
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I'm sure we've all been there:

Your playing against a less expericenced player, you play the En passant move, your opponent exclaims "You can't do that!!", because En Passant is such an unusual move an argument soon erupts.

Quite a rare move, beginners should at least be aware that it exists, but perhaps leave this move till last in their learning curve.

What does everyone else think?
captain_chess
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#2 | Posted: 17 Jun 2008 08:27
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Yes it's an odd move. You capture a pawn without actually landing on it. Bound to lead to a dispute.
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#3 | Posted: 24 Dec 2008 02:33
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I have played a few games in which I caputured the enpasant pawn. Yes the response was you cant do that .The other site I belong to there is a section of beginner rules and one of them explains the enpasant pawn move. Once I have refered them to this rule they swallow some pride and play on learning a valuable new rule.
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#4 | Posted: 7 Feb 2009 22:12
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Is it not just like any of the other rules of chess, for example,
how each piece moves, Castleing King side (O-O), Castleing Queen side (O-O-O), the Promotion of a pawn to any piece, even that the White square goes to the right when initially placing the board down,
En pasant is a move that even my 4 year old grandson knows, who would teach anyone learning any game only some of the rules ?
come on people its a perfectly legal move and very much part of the game
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#5 | Posted: 18 Mar 2009 03:31
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I generally avoid this problem by not playing against weaker players But if it does happen, refer the player to the rule somewhere where it is valid and believable.

Out of curiosity, where do you play krazyking?
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#6 | Posted: 30 Mar 2009 20:10
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En Passent came into play when the rules changed. At one time pawns could only move one square forward from their starting point - when this was changed and pawns were allowed to move 2 squares it was agreed that the opponent could treat the pawn as if it had only moved one square and take it in this unusual fashion - but only if it was done the very next move. I often do the same as shadow-soldier and tend not to play it against weaker players as i was once accused of cheating when playing this - it was obviously soon sorted out but was a bit embarrassing at the time.
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#7 | Posted: 1 Apr 2009 14:52 | Edited by: andy75180
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Obviously En Passent is inevitably going to cause arguments with beginners if they are unaware of the rule, but has anyone ever had problems with the castling rule?

I usually find beginners have heard of it, even if they are unclear of the actual full rules.
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#8 | Posted: 1 Apr 2009 16:30
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Over the board i have seen a player move the rook first when castling and his opponent insist that he could only move the rook as he should have moved the king first - this may be correct but seemed a bit petty
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#9 | Posted: 1 Apr 2009 16:41
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Well that is the official rules:

"If a player touches a rook and then his king, he may not castle with that rook."

But if you was both playing informally, it would be a bit over the top to be so strict.
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#10 | Posted: 27 May 2009 16:55
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Oh my God !
I play a good game of draughts (checker's) any one know a good site ?
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#11 | Posted: 29 Jul 2009 15:04
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new at game, could you explain the En Passent move?
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#12 | Posted: 31 Jul 2009 16:04
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imagine a white pawn on d5. black plays e7-e5. white can capture the e pawn as if it had moved e7-e6. this capture must take place on the next move or not at all. the capture would be notated dxe6 ep (I'm pretty sure that's correct)
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#13 | Posted: 1 Aug 2009 21:21
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You have posted a question ref en passent (French for " I Pass " me thinks)
In english, once you have advanced your pawn to the 5th rank, if your opponent then plays one of his pawns either side of your advanced pawn, the two permitted sqares (first move only) you may take it as if it had only moved one square, you don't have to and you must do it immediately, not later, simple really and can be useful .... sometimes !!!
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#14 | Posted: 4 Aug 2009 10:49
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I had the ultimate argument about the En Passant rule many years ago when I was in the military at the start of the Angolan war. My opponent did not agree and attacked me with a machete to make his point. I had to shoot him through the leg with an R1 rifle to stop him and make him understand the rules!! Hopefully he stopped playing chess....
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#15 | Posted: 7 Aug 2009 15:22 | Edited by: shunwick
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Hm...

Extreme chess... Interesting idea.... Can't quite remember the last time I was attacked with a machete while playing chess but it could certainly liven up some endgames I have known....

Best wishes
Steve
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